On the road

Woken by thunder and lightning and very heavy rain all morning. Started with a meeting with local representative body where we had death by PowerPoint again and were all left with the feeling they were sleepwalking into all sorts of bother around their metrics, then a short drive to Ryerson Uni where we met and chatted with some interesting people....less spin and more depth to discussion. Lunch then a long bus ride out to York Uni. We couldn’t believe we still had the disco bus....such a weird sort of transport for a study trip! (extra). the driver seemed to go the wrong way as there was a lot of map consulting and discussion amongst the organisers and we arrived late-annoying as the main speakers had very little time with us before dashing off to graduations, but they were very interesting....more thought provoking than some we’ve heard from and followed up by some discussion before back on the bus and off to Waterloo. had a good chat with R from Melbourne as we travelled....very helpful
We had a bit of downtime before walking to supper and a round table discussion of our thoughts and impressions so far, and lots of interesting stuff came up.