Phil

The best work meetings are the ones that feel less like chores and more like a chat with a chum. One such was my meeting with Phil this morning.

We discussed that place where poverty and mental health collide - and the work he's doing to mitigate against some of the worst outcomes of current government policy.

And we agreed that a 'homespun' approach is better than any amount of 'spin'.

(Those are skateboards on the wall behind him, in case you were wondering!)